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NFL trade deadline winners, latest Week 9 buzz, fantasy tips

Week 9 of the 2023 NFL season is here, and league insiders Jeremy Fowler and Dan Graziano are breaking down the biggest questions, latest news and notable buzz of the week. Plus, they picked out which teams are on upset watch and which players should -- or shouldn't -- be in your fantasy football lineups.

But first, let's make sense of the trade deadline, which passed at 4 p.m. ET on Tuesday. We saw 15 total deals (six on Tuesday), including Montez Sweat going to Chicago, Joshua Dobbs helping fill the sudden QB void in Minnesota and Chase Young heading to San Francisco. Which teams -- and players -- were the big winners of the deadline? And which teams came away from the deadline with more questions than answers? It's all here, as Dan and Jeremy break down the biggest trades and empty their notebooks with everything they've heard heading into Week 9.

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Who are the biggest winners of the trade deadline?

Graziano: I'll start with the Eagles. Just because their move for Titans safety Kevin Byard was last week instead of this week doesn't mean it wasn't a high-impact deadline deal. Byard will be a huge help to the back end of that defense, which has struggled this season. Add in the fact that the Cowboys didn't make any trades ahead of the teams' first head-to-head matchup of the year, and the Eagles came out ahead. I'm not saying the Cowboys needed to make a move, but I'm not sure the Eagles needed to make one either.

Just the fact that the Eagles added an accomplished veteran to their defense while their closest rivals didn't do anything feels like a reason to call them a winner. I was going to say the 49ers were the deadline's biggest winner, but their move (Chase Young) is offset by the fact that the Seahawks -- who are now ahead of them in the NFC West standings -- made one (Leonard Williams), too.

Fowler: I'd say the Giants got the best haul of the week in their trade of Williams. Even though New York paid out nearly $10 million of Williams' remaining salary to make it happen, getting second- and fifth-round picks for a 29-year-old defensive tackle with 1.5 sacks on the season is strong value. Given where the Giants stand (2-6), moving on from a contract-year player was a sensible play.

The Williams trade loomed large during Tuesday's deadline, with multiple execs telling me the Giants got enough in return for Williams that teams with marquee assets needed to assess the market and make sure they also got adequate compensation as a result. That Dexter Lawrence and Kayvon Thibodeaux are flourishing in Wink Martindale's defensive front should help offset the loss of Williams, who gives Seattle exactly what it needs in the middle of the defense. So the consensus is the Giants fronting the bill on Williams' salary was a sound investment.

Graziano: Yeah, the Giants effectively "buying" a second-round pick and unloading a player they were probably done with after the season is the right move for them at this point. They won a bunch of games -- including a playoff matchup -- last season, but they're really in a rebuild mode, and the extra second-round pick will help them fill holes in the offseason. You'd probably call Williams a winner here, too, since he goes from one division's last-place team to another's first-place team. The tradeoff for him is the quirky fact that, because the Seahawks have already had their bye and the Giants haven't, Williams might end up having to play 18 regular-season games this season.

Are we calling the Bears winners or losers after they dealt a second-rounder for Commanders edge rusher Montez Sweat? I feel like the answer to that question depends on how long they plan to have Sweat around. Do they franchise him? Do they sign him long-term? I've heard from people who hate this trade and from people who love it. I think it's a good move; not every deadline deal has to be only about the next two months, and it's often a lot better when they aren't. Where do you come down on this, Jeremy?

Fowler: It seems like you're hearing as many divided opinions on this deal as I am, Dan. Here's why I mostly lean toward a thumbs-up here: The Bears' pass rush is, by a wide margin, the league's worst. Chicago has 10 sacks, five fewer than the next-closest team (Houston). Sweat gives Chicago a marquee player at one of the game's most important positions for years to come, assuming it extends him -- though that's another story. And a second-rounder is reasonable for Sweat when you consider Miami gave up a first-rounder and more last year for Bradley Chubb, whom some evaluators consider an inferior player. The Bears' draft-pick haul from the Bryce Young/No. 1 selection trade with the Panthers back in March gives them some leeway here, too.

However, Chicago not laying the groundwork for an extension now seems shortsighted, though it can use the franchise tag next season. And I also keep going back to this: The presence of Sweat isn't going to monumentally shift this season for Chicago, a team that desperately needs draft capital to rebuild. That's why I at least understand why some league folks have a problem with the deal.

Graziano: Cornerback Rasul Douglas also needs mentioning here, going from the Packers to the Bills. The Bills aren't playing great right now, but they're obviously much more of a contender than this Packers team. So Douglas goes down as a winner even though he got sent to the one place in the league that isn't a clear weather upgrade for him.

And I say Titans rookie quarterback Will Levis is a winner because the team didn't trade receiver DeAndre Hopkins or running back Derrick Henry, both of whom will help Levis' chances of being successful as he gets his career as a starter off the ground.

Fowler: Douglas to Buffalo is a schematic fit, which begs the question of what the Bills now do with 2022 first-round pick Kaiir Elam, who was inactive last week. And yeah, Tennessee was in a similar place to a lot of teams, close to .500 with a playoff spot still attainable. Trading Henry or Hopkins would have crushed Levis' chances. On that note, the fact that Minnesota didn't do a full reset and trade edge rusher Danielle Hunter can be commended. The Vikings are 4-4 and still in it.

Graziano: Joshua Dobbs' season is one for the books. With Kyler Murray coming back soon from injury, Dobbs wasn't going to keep being the starting quarterback for the Cardinals. Now he'll have a chance to win the starter's job in Minnesota with Kirk Cousins (torn Achilles) out for the season. The Vikings have won three in a row, while the Cardinals currently occupy the No. 1 spot in next year's draft. Let's call the Vikings winners for being able to land a viable starting QB option in a league that's short on them just a couple of days after losing Cousins. Minnesota also traded away a player, and I low-key love the Ezra Cleveland move for Jacksonville, which addresses maybe its one weakness.

Fowler: Adding Dobbs at a low cost is on brand for Minnesota's new regime -- a true value pickup. I was surprised by the lack of skill-position moves on offense, though. Donovan Peoples-Jones (Lions) was the only receiver, tight end or running back dealt on Tuesday.


Who are the biggest losers of the trade deadline?

Fowler: No colossal losers here, but I'll point to a pair of teams in the NFC South. Atlanta had its sights set on Sweat, but Washington went with Chicago's offer. That left the Falcons without much-needed pass-rush help. And my understanding is Atlanta was willing to extend Sweat's contract as part of the deal and that Sweat wanted to go to Atlanta, where he has family. All of that fell through. Coming out of this with former Eagle Kentavius Street for a late-round pick swap is anticlimactic.

And at 1-6, Carolina made several players available, but nothing happened. That feels like a slight letdown, but the offers must not have been compelling enough. Receiver Terrace Marshall Jr. wanted out, and Carolina couldn't find a new home for him. All that said, our biggest discussion centers around Washington. Where do you sit with what the Commanders did, Dan?

Graziano: Coach Ron Rivera and the Commanders' front office are the biggest losers of the deadline. Trading either Sweat or Young made sense. They weren't going to be able to sign both, and you're not allowed to franchise more than one player per year. So at least one of them was going to leave in free agency. But dealing both sends a very different message.

This is new ownership deciding future-focused assets (i.e., draft picks) are more important than win-now personnel, even if the "now" includes 2024. Josh Harris, whose previous sports ownership forays included the famous "Process" with the Philadelphia 76ers, is thinking about the future, and that spells bad news for a coaching staff and a front office that he didn't hire. It's going to be even tougher for Rivera to win games the rest of this season, and I would think we can expect big changes in Washington this offseason as well.

Fowler: My sense is Monday was a very difficult day at Washington headquarters. The front office was tasked with moving two pivotal players while essentially knowing it might not be able to use the picks it acquired, due to uncertain futures. To your point, it seemed that Washington would deal one pass-rusher, most likely Sweat, who had more value. Young made sense to keep since he was the No. 2 overall pick of the current regime in 2020 and his play is perking up after two injury-riddled seasons. Dealing Young was mildly surprising but not shocking.

The Commanders wanted to keep quarterback Jacoby Brissett, who's valuable as a sounding board to Sam Howell, and safety Kamren Curl, whom they want to extend eventually. Had Washington beat Philadelphia to go 4-4, it sounds like the Commanders might have just kept Young and Sweat. That begs the question: Why does one week determine whether to make franchise-altering moves? I'll ding them a bit for that. The playoffs are not completely out of reach yet, and not getting a second-rounder for Chase is somewhat of a disappointment.

Graziano: I was thinking of putting Bears cornerback Jaylon Johnson in this category, since (as you reported in the middle of the night) he requested a trade and didn't get one. But I'm not sure the day was a total loss for Johnson. The Bears acquiring Sweat means it's less likely Johnson has to deal with a franchise tag, since I would imagine they'd be more likely to use it on Sweat if they can't sign him long-term. If they struggle to sign Sweat, that could make them more motivated to do a deal with Johnson, either during or after the season. So while he didn't get what he wanted in the form of a contract or a trade, he might have actually benefited from the move the Bears did make.

Fowler: The whole Johnson situation was frenzied, since the Bears did not plan to trade him a few weeks ago. But once they got deep into negotiations, it became clear the Bears would not pay him what he wanted (most likely fringe top-10 corner money). So Johnson applied pressure, and when he did, the Bears were willing to entertain trades -- but at a high price. According to several teams, Chicago wanted at least a Day 2 pick. Johnson will do well in free agency, so this isn't considered a loss. This Bears regime didn't draft him and has little loyalty to him.

Graziano: I'd mention Davante Adams, too, even though I never felt like the Raiders would trade him. He's a pro's pro, and it's actually pretty rare these days to see an athlete express this much frustration in such a civil and respectful way, but it's clear he's not happy there -- and who could blame him? I'm sure he would have been thrilled to be sent somewhere else, but at this point, it looks like that move will have to wait until the offseason. Maybe things turn around in Las Vegas, but count me as a skeptic.

Fowler: I know he wants the Vegas experiment to work. He's obviously not thrilled with the situation, but it's my understanding that he bought a primary residence there and wants to raise his family as a Raider. Getting traded there in 2022 wasn't a whimsical move on his part, and he has been willing to have a little patience with the Josh McDaniels era. But that patience appears to be waning.

The fact that Las Vegas couldn't swing a deal for receiver Hunter Renfrow after making him available for the better part of the past year is surprising, too. His contract was prohibitive at the deadline. He's still due around $4 million in guaranteed salary, and teams I talked to believe the Raiders didn't want to pay it.

Graziano: The Broncos probably could have stood to get something for receiver Jerry Jeudy or linebacker Josey Jewell, players who don't seem to be part of their future plans. And the Chiefs probably could have benefited from adding a veteran wideout, though I know they weren't out there looking to make any big spends. Carolina was also trying to get a receiver and couldn't do it, which has to be disappointing.

Fowler: Good call on the Chiefs. This is a team hamstrung a bit by cap space and money tied elsewhere. The feeling was Kansas City couldn't maneuver much, and even though Charles Omenihu returned from suspension, the Chiefs would have loved one of those Washington pass-rushers (especially Sweat).

Graziano: The way the Chiefs are going to win is if they can do on offense what they did last season on defense -- develop their young players through the season so they're playing their best when it matters most. That feels like a long way off for some of these guys right now, but the Chiefs aren't being pushed in their division and have time to make this work. When you're as top-heavy as they are in terms of big cap numbers tied up in stars, this is the way to stay good. Fortunately, they showed last season that it's possible.

Fowler: Lastly, Tampa Bay rarely does trades at the deadline, but the Buccaneers should have called the Eagles on Rashaad Penny. They need a power running back, and Penny knows offensive coordinator Dave Canales' system well from their Seattle days together.


What's your top upset pick for Week 9?

Graziano: Cowboys (+3) over Eagles. Yeah, I'm going there. And I'm fully prepared for the Cowboys to let me down per usual. But right now, the Dallas defense is in a lot better shape than Philly's unit, and Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts is playing with an injured left knee. It's impressive that Hurts is playing through it, but you can see it's affecting him. This is a close matchup between two good teams, and one of them is just healthier right now than the other one. This is not to say the Eagles won't be there in the end; I'm just taking the Cowboys in Week 9. Against my better judgment, maybe, but you only live once.

Fowler: Seahawks (+5.5) over Ravens. Seattle has the kind of balanced roster that could take down Baltimore on the road. The Ravens' passing game is much improved, but Seattle's defense is among the league's most opportunistic, and it recently added defensive line help in Williams and Frank Clark. If the offensive line can protect Geno Smith against the Ravens' front, the Seahawks' collection of skill players can outshine Baltimore's group. Look for running backs Kenneth Walker III and Zach Charbonnet to dictate the pace.


What's your fantasy football call of the week?

Fowler: Consider a Patriots -- yes, the Patriots -- skill player for your fantasy lineup. Sixth-round rookie receiver Demario Douglas looks poised for an increased role in light of Kendrick Bourne's season-ending ACL injury. He caught five passes and played nearly 80% of the snaps Sunday against Miami. Offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien clearly trusts him, and Douglas is one of the only vertical threats on the entire team. Here's to thinking he capitalizes on an expanding role.

Graziano: With Christian McCaffrey, Travis Etienne, Javonte Williams and Jahmyr Gibbs all on bye this week, you could need a running back substitute. If you're stuck and one of the people who has been carrying both Jonathan Taylor and Zack Moss on your team, you could actually get away with starting both of them this week. The Colts really like the way Moss is playing, Carolina is giving up the second-most fantasy points per game to running backs, and at some point Indy is going to figure out that its best chance to win doesn't involve Gardner Minshew trying to push the ball down the field. It's possible the Colts give both backs heavy usage in Week 9, which means you probably can too.


What else are you hearing this week?

Graziano's notebook:

• I'm told Young is ecstatic to go to San Francisco and reunite with Ohio State teammate Nick Bosa. The two are connected in several ways. Each was the No. 2 pick in the draft, each was Defensive Rookie of the Year (in back-to-back years) and they had a lot of success together in college. Whether Young is in the 49ers' plans long-term remains to be seen -- the Niners are in win-now mode and confront a number of difficult contract decisions next offseason. But Young was playing well in Washington and could be very energized to find himself in a division race and paired back up with Bosa.

• Nothing official on the schedule at this point, but I am told the Bears will at least make an effort to try to sign Sweat to a long-term deal before the end of the season. I don't necessarily expect Seattle to do the same with Williams. The Seahawks' history (think Jamal Adams) indicates that they prefer to wait until after the season even if they've given up valuable picks to bring in a guy at midseason.

• There were no substantive discussions between the Patriots and other teams involving quarterback Mac Jones, but the fact that there was even a whiff of it is yet another indication that all is not well with Jones in New England. He had a big game two weeks ago against Buffalo but regressed this past Sunday in Miami. I don't get the sense that Jones is in any danger of being benched for this week's game against a suddenly slightly more toothless Washington defense, but there are some in the building who wouldn't mind giving Bailey Zappe a shot if Jones doesn't show improvement soon. And it's going to be tough with Bourne out for the year and DeVante Parker likely to miss a game or two in concussion protocol.

• The Patriots had some discussions with teams about edge rusher Josh Uche, but he has been in and out of the lineup with injuries lately, and that scared some teams off. Nothing ever got close to happening on that front, nor on the Ezekiel Elliott front. The Patriots have been very happy with the way Elliott has played and have enjoyed having him in the building. My understanding is the only way he was going anywhere was if the Patriots were able to get back a player who could help them (i.e., not just a draft pick).

Fowler's notebook:

• Uche's market took a few turns in the past week. Seattle looked heavily into him before ultimately deciding to sign Clark instead. Then in the past few days, the Saints got involved. The feeling on Uche was that a Day 3 pick might have facilitated a deal, making it more palatable for suitors who needed a pass-rusher but didn't want to spend on Sweat or Young. But teams also cautioned that New England likes to appear open for business ... until it isn't. By Tuesday, the Patriots were excited about keeping Uche, a talented player who should do well in free agency.

• On the aftermath of Johnson staying with Chicago: The cornerback effectively halted negotiations Monday and plans to play out his rookie contract. No hard feelings. The Bears' offer to extend him was considered pretty low, and in talking to teams, they suspect he will jockey with Kansas City's L'Jarius Sneed as the top corners in free agency. In recent years, that market has paid around $15 million per season. But an extension wasn't a prerequisite for a trade, I'm told. Johnson was willing to play out the year on his new team, too. Some teams might not have wanted to give up significant capital for a rental. We know Buffalo was in on corners after the Douglas deal, and San Francisco, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia were among others interested.

• Jets trade candidates Dalvin Cook and Carl Lawson are still on the New York roster, and as of now, that appears to be the plan. There wasn't any indication as of Tuesday that Cook was asking for a release. And the Jets will probably need him through the rigors of a long season. Same goes for Lawson, who is buried behind a deep pass-rush unit. Cook was intrigued by potentially playing for Baltimore or Dallas, I'm told, though neither team ever really entertained the perceived positional need at the deadline. Cook just wants to play, and maybe New York can still help him with that.

• The Bengals received trade calls on wide receiver Tee Higgins, as they did in the offseason, but did not entertain them. Cincinnati typically isn't active this time of year, believing in the draft-and-develop philosophy that has worked well the past few seasons.

• Where was Eagles GM Howie Roseman's normal deadline-day splash? The splash was Byard, and the Eagles just did their deal a week early. They worked the phones and were willing to part with depth but didn't feel the need to get overly aggressive for the sake of doing so.