Week 4 of the 2023 NFL season is here, and league insiders Jeremy Fowler and Dan Graziano are breaking down the biggest questions, latest news and notable buzz of the week. Plus, they picked out which teams are on upset watch and which players should -- or shouldn't -- be in your fantasy football lineups.
There have been a bunch of early-season surprises -- who would have predicted the Bengals would be at the bottom of the AFC North through three games -- but what has been convincing enough to already change minds since the preseason? What's new on the Jonathan Taylor front, and will the star running back be traded? Are any coaching seats already heating up? And which quarterbacks could find themselves on the bench if their play doesn't rapidly improve?
It's all here, as Dan and Jeremy answer big questions and empty their reporting notebooks with everything they've heard heading into Week 4.
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What have you changed your mind about since the start of the season?
Graziano: The AFC North. I had the Bengals as the division favorite and Super Bowl winner, but the rough start and the persistence of the Joe Burrow calf injury have conspired to make me think this was not my best pick.
The Browns could be a major factor in the division if Deshaun Watson can just start playing decent football, which he kind of did Sunday. Bringing in Jim Schwartz as defensive coordinator could turn out be the offseason's best addition, and edge rusher Myles Garrett looks primed for a Defensive Player of the Year run. Baltimore will be a major factor, too, if it can find a way to weather this flood of early-season injuries. I still don't think the Steelers have enough on offense, but Mike Tomlin's likely going to coach more wins out of them than their talent might predict. The Bengals' slow start and Burrow's injured leg may end up costing them a lot more than expected.
Fowler: Yeah, the AFC North figured to be one of the game's best divisions, but I'm with you that Cincinnati was expected to lead the charge instead of following the lead -- though the offense showed slight progress on Monday Night Football.
If we're staying with divisions, I'd go with the NFC South. It's better than I thought. The Saints had a 3-0 start in their grasp in Green Bay. Tampa Bay and Atlanta have pretty good rosters, and if they can get enough out of their offenses with Baker Mayfield and Desmond Ridder, they might push for playoff spots.
Graziano: I think the question about the NFC South is all about the quarterbacks. Like, are we sure Atlanta is going to get anything out of Ridder? Because it looks like they're protecting him. Mayfield looked horrendous on Monday night, albeit against a great-looking Eagles defense. Bryce Young appears more overwhelmed than I ever thought he would. And Derek Carr, the one actual proven commodity in the division at the position, has a right shoulder injury.
Bucs-Saints in New Orleans on Sunday is a sneaky important game for potential playoff positioning in the NFC South. After all, someone has to win that division, and I couldn't tell you who it would be at the moment.
Fowler: One team I've changed my mind about is Indianapolis. The Colts aren't far away. The offense has been moving the ball with two different quarterbacks, and if they get running back Jonathan Taylor back on the field -- yes, that's a big if -- it would only improve the attack. And the defense has plenty of talent.
Make the call: Will Jonathan Taylor get traded before the deadline?
Graziano: I'll say yes. From what I understand, he still doesn't want to play for the Colts, and they still don't want to give him a long-term contract. The time since the preseason has mellowed out the market a bit and maybe created more fertile ground for a deal. Taylor has to miss at least one more week while on the physically unable to perform list, but it wouldn't surprise me if his first game of the season was in a different uniform. The Browns might end up being more motivated to make a deal than they want us to believe after the Nick Chubb injury.
Fowler: I think he stays put. For as much as Taylor would like to be dealt -- and heck, the Colts are probably cool with it at this point, too -- I don't see a team that's clamoring to give up a Day 2 pick for a running back.
Just look at the Colts, who are 2-1 with Zack Moss as their leading back. Taylor is much better, of course, and has value. And maybe he's the player to unlock a contender; Cleveland does make some sense, and Browns GM Andrew Berry never shies away from a potential deal. But Jerome Ford and Kareem Hunt is a pretty good tandem. Plus, Miami -- a Taylor suitor in the preseason -- is running wild with Raheem Mostert and De'Von Achane.
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Graziano: I watched Rachaad White on Monday night and wondered whether Tampa Bay might jump in. But then I remembered that you and I together have more salary cap space than the Bucs, and such a move probably isn't feasible.
Taylor is only 24 years old, still young even for a running back, and I keep thinking some team will see him as a difference-maker. But I hear all of your points about why teams don't want to pay for the position, and they're all correct.
Fowler: If teams prefer smaller-scale RB deals at the trade deadline, one option might be Chicago's D'Onta Foreman, who has been a healthy scratch for the Bears despite rushing for 914 yards and five touchdowns in Carolina last season. His base salary of $1.525 million is reasonable. This reminds me of Cam Akers, whom the Rams dealt to Minnesota for a swap of late-round picks.
Hearing any early buzz on coaches on the hot seat? Could Chicago's disastrous start put pressure on Matt Eberflus?
Fowler: At least mild pressure. It's still early enough in the year where any hot-seat buzz is more of a low hum, but the coming weeks figure to be big for Eberflus and Chicago, considering last year's Bears were more competitive than what they have shown so far this year. Chicago brass knew this rebuild would be a process, so perhaps that buys time for the coach who's trying to establish a culture. Selling that vision requires modest progress eventually.
Overall, the expectation is more jobs will open than last year's slate of five.
Graziano: Yeah, Chicago's certainly a spot to watch. The Bears haven't won a game since before last Halloween.
Elsewhere, I think it's a good thing for Brandon Staley in the big picture that the Chargers won Sunday and aren't 0-3, because that's another spot we're going to be watching if that team doesn't make the playoffs. I'm curious about the Raiders, who look pretty bad to begin the year. Do you think Josh McDaniels is in trouble if they bottom out there?
Fowler: It would have to be a pretty colossal breakdown from my view. Owner Mark Davis had a long-term vision in mind when he hired McDaniels and general manager Dave Ziegler, and moving on would not be cheap. It doesn't hurt to let this one play out.
Graziano: I kind of disagree there. The franchise is in perceptibly worse shape than it was when McDaniels got there. Jimmy Garoppolo is already hurt. Davante Adams is making noise about being unhappy. It just feels like every move that has been made since the Adams trade has made the roster worse, and if they finish with one of the league's worst records (which I believe to be extremely possible), how long will Mark Davis be willing to live with his mistake?
Fowler: What about wild cards, Dan? Kevin Stefanski is coming off back-to-back losing seasons but has the Browns playing inspired football. And Ron Rivera has to win this year in Washington, no?
Graziano: Yeah, I'm of the belief that Stefanski and Rivera both have to win this year. But they're both 2-1, so it's tough to hot-seat them this early. If Watson ever remembers how to play quarterback, Stefanski might even have the most complete team in the AFC North. I'd throw Todd Bowles (Tampa Bay) and Dennis Allen (New Orleans) in the same category as Stefanski and Rivera, as guys who probably need to do some winning this year to keep the seat cool -- but so far so good.
Who will be the first quarterback benched this season?
Fowler: The Broncos-Bears matchup this Sunday has my attention in terms of how long the quarterbacks fit in their respective franchises' long-term outlook. The Bears seem positioned to give Justin Fields a long runway, so I will go with Russell Wilson. Which seems wild -- and it might be. It's not that Wilson has played terribly. He has improved upon last season and ranks a respectable 13th in QBR (59.4) with back-to-back 300-yard games. But Sean Payton doesn't purport to be a patient coach -- especially an 0-4 coach, should Denver lose to the Bears.
The Broncos gave backup Jarrett Stidham real money in free agency this offseason (two years, $10 million). Wilson's $85 million dead money hit in 2024 is daunting, but they could reduce that to $35.4 million with a post-June-1 release, creating a sunk-cost situation. This is mostly spitballing, but regime changes often churn the roster.
Graziano: I agree with you that a Wilson benching at some point this year is not out of the question. At this point, though, he doesn't seem like the biggest of the Broncos' problems. If they lose to the Bears, things are going to get tight out there in Denver real quick.
Ryan Tannehill ranks 32nd in QBR (27.9), and he's in the same quarterback room as a guy who was the 33rd pick in this year's draft. (Not to mention a guy who was the 86th pick in last year's draft.) Things look all kinds of wrong in Tennessee after putting up 94 yards of total offense in Sunday's loss to the Browns. Tannehill is not playing well. Derrick Henry doesn't look right. DeAndre Hopkins doesn't appear to be fully healthy.
I would think there will come a time this season when the Titans want to take a look at Will Levis and/or Malik Willis, but man. If they're hoping to trade Tannehill in the final year of his contract, he probably needs to string together a couple of at least decent games, right?
Fowler: Here's an idea that a league exec floated to me, and I'm curious on your thoughts: Tannehill to the Jets. He'd cost less draft capital than Kirk Cousins. He has a connection with Jets passing game coordinator Todd Downing, a former Titans playcaller. His $27 million salary is modest for a reputable NFL starter. And the Jets just need someone who can get the ball to Garrett Wilson on third down. Tannehill can get that done.
Graziano: Oh, it makes a ton of sense logistically. He'd be a lot easier to get than Cousins, who has a no-trade clause in his contract and may not want to leave Minnesota (or go to the Jets). The connection with Downing is worth noting. This is Nathaniel Hackett's offense, though, not the one Downing was running in Tennessee. One of the reasons we don't see a lot of starting quarterbacks traded in-season is because of the time needed to master a new offense.
Atlanta might make sense for Tannehill, should it sour on Desmond Ridder, who I imagine could be another answer to this benching question at some point. The Falcons currently have veteran Taylor Heinicke behind Ridder, who hasn't shown much to start the season, but coach Arthur Smith was Tannehill's offensive coordinator in Tennessee in 2019-20.
What's your top upset pick for Week 4?
Graziano: Texans (+3) over Steelers. I've got C.J. Stroud fever, baby. How can you not right now? Houston's offense seems to be making weekly leaps forward around the rookie quarterback. And in spite of what Pittsburgh was able to do against an absolutely terrible Raiders team on Sunday night, I still don't think the Steelers' offense can be counted on to win a shootout. I'm not saying this will be a shootout, but if Stroud keeps clicking, it could be. And if it is, Houston's young passing game appears a good deal further along than Pittsburgh's unit.
Fowler: Ravens (+2.5) over Browns. Baltimore will bring an edge after losing to the Colts in Week 3, and despite losing their past two games in Cleveland, the Ravens are traditionally a strong road team. They were missing seven key players last week due to injury but should start to get some players back. The Browns' impressive defense under Jim Schwartz will face its toughest test of the year.
What's your fantasy football call of the week?
Fowler: Start Chargers wide receiver Joshua Palmer against the Raiders. Typically camouflaged by Keenan Allen and Mike Williams, Palmer should see a more prominent role with Williams now done for the year with a torn ACL. Justin Herbert targeted Palmer twice in the fourth quarter of a close win over Minnesota, with one going for a 30-yard touchdown. The Chargers can work to get rookie Quentin Johnston more involved, but Palmer has a pre-established rapport with Herbert after catching 72 passes last season.
Graziano: I like Packers tight end Luke Musgrave in the Thursday night game against a Lions team that has allowed the second-most fantasy points to tight ends this year. Jordan Love targeted Musgrave eight times Sunday against the Saints, whose defense is notoriously tough on fantasy tight ends. There's clearly some trust there between the young QB and his rookie tight end. I don't know whether Christian Watson and/or Aaron Jones will return from their hamstring injuries and play on a short week, but regardless, the Packers probably need to throw to beat the Lions. And it seems like Love enjoys throwing to Musgrave.
Fowler: This one is probably obvious, but I also like adding Miami RB De'Von Achane. His arrow is pointing up. The Dolphins are really excited about him behind the scenes. And lastly, Carolina's Adam Thielen went off for 11-145-1 in Week 3 against Seattle. Now that his ankle injury appears healed, he's a safe play if quarterback Andy Dalton is under center again.
What else are you hearing this week?
Fowler's notebook:
• The Raiders are optimistic that Jimmy Garoppolo can work his way through concussion protocol and play Sunday vs. the Chargers. He must clear five steps, including clearance from an independent neurologist, but the belief early in the week is Garoppolo is doing well. Brian Hoyer is in line to start should Garoppolo need more time.
• How the Derek Carr situation was explained to me this week: The Saints understand Carr took a pretty big shot on that right shoulder Sunday against Green Bay, so they will be very cautious with him. After asking around, Carr playing Sunday vs. Tampa Bay would be a pretty big upset. Recovery with this sort of deal can take some time. So the stage is set for Jameis Winston to play Sunday, then the team can reassess Carr for Oct. 8 vs. New England.
• Free agent offensive tackle La'el Collins has received inquiries from about a dozen or so teams and figures to take free agent visits soon. Collins suffered a torn ACL and MCL in his left knee in December but has been medically cleared. Something to consider: Collins has $2.1 million in injury guarantees if he doesn't play this year. That's a nice fallback plan if he can't come to agreement on a contract with a new team.
• The most memorable moment from the Steelers' lengthy delay in Kansas City due to mechanical issues coming back from Las Vegas? The Kansas City International Airport providing players and staff with Dunkin' and breakfast pizzas while they waited. Otherwise, players mostly watched film, played video games or slept. Coach Mike Tomlin made it clear the team won't make excuses for the trip affecting play against Houston this week. But the team did move back Wednesday practice a few hours last week to accommodate Monday Night Football and will do the same this week. Maybe that gets guys a little more rest.
Graziano's notebook:
• The Packers are optimistic they will have wide receiver Christian Watson and running back Aaron Jones for Thursday night's division game against the Lions. Both players worked out extensively on the field prior to Sunday's game against the Saints in Green Bay, and it felt for a while like Watson might go. But the Packers elected to give their stars' respective hamstrings an extra four days to rest (and won the game anyway).
When I spoke to Packers coach Matt LaFleur over the weekend, he said getting Watson back would be massive, since he's their fastest player, and he joins Jones as the team's two "home-run hitters" on offense. Watson has yet to play this season, but it says something for his prospects as a deep threat that, even without him, Jordan Love leads the league in air yards per pass attempt at 10.1.
• As Jeremy pointed out, the Saints likely will be without Derek Carr this week, but they do welcome back running back Alvin Kamara, who's done serving his three-game suspension. Saints wideout Rashid Shaheed told me the team has been excited about Kamara's return for weeks. "We'll be sitting watching film and somebody, every day, will say, 'Oh, that'll be AK when he's back.' Total difference-maker in the running game, one of the best backs in the league, obviously, and it's exciting to know we're only going to get better."
• The Dolphins had planned to increase rookie running back De'Von Achane's workload Sunday, though no one imagined the extent of what Achane or Miami's offense would accomplish on the day. And while they don't expect to score 70 points every week, the question now becomes what Achane's role will be going forward. Veteran Raheem Mostert is having an excellent season, but he has an injury history and the team is mindful of overworking him. Jeff Wilson Jr. has to miss at least one more game while on the PUP list but is expected back at some point.
My sense is Achane will retain a prominent role as an early-down runner with the others mixed in and with Mostert heavily involved in the passing game in particular. But the Dolphins are operating with a "hot hand" situation, and as one person there told me, "everybody's hands are hot right now."
• It sounds like Ravens receiver Odell Beckham Jr. likely misses another game or two with an ankle injury that has bothered him since the offseason. But running back Justice Hill has a chance to return from his toe injury this week for a Baltimore backfield that needs some healthy bodies.
• The Giants will continue to describe running back Saquon Barkley as "day to day" with his sprained ankle, but I would be surprised if he was back in time for Monday's game against the Seahawks.
• The Lions feel like there's a decent chance running back David Montgomery returns from his right thigh injury to play against the Packers on Thursday night.