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Scouting Report: Duke vs. North Carolina

Who will come out on top when Coach K's Blue Devils battle Roy Williams' Tar Heels? Getty Images

With No. 4 Duke hosting No. 15 North Carolina on Wednesday night, Seth Greenberg and Fran Fraschilla got together to discuss the big rivalry game. The former head coaches debated the biggest keys for both sides, each team’s X factor and the long-term potential for the Tobacco Road programs this season.


What are the biggest keys for North Carolina and Duke?

Fran Fraschilla: Let’s start with North Carolina. The biggest key will come on the inside. They gave up 40 points to Pittsburgh in the paint, and Coach Roy Williams has shuffled his inside lineup around between Isaiah Hicks, Kennedy Meeks and Brice Johnson because they’ve lost three of their past four games. It’s imperative against Duke and Jahlil Okafor that they tighten up their inside defense. That is a huge concern, and it’s jumped up to bite them in recent weeks.

Seth Greenberg: I completely agree, Fran. If you’re putting together a game plan for how to beat Duke, it starts with defending Okafor. Are we doubling him? Are we playing man-to-man? If we double him, what are we going to give and take away? The best way to defend Okafor is to make him defend on every possession. Offensively, they must try to push Okafor off the block, which is really important.

If you’re Duke, you have to rebound the basketball. North Carolina’s best offense sometimes is the second shot. The Blue Devils have to rebound the ball better on the defensive end, and when you have a dominant rebounder like Okafor, it helps. Duke has to find a way to force North Carolina to play in the half court and limit easy baskets. You also must continue to take Marcus Paige out of the game. He hasn’t been the same player this season as last, but in this game, on this stage, you always wonder if all of a sudden he’s going to elevate his game.

I would not be shocked to see Duke play some zone. When you look at North Carolina, they’re a little bit like Louisville. Duke zoned them in an earlier win. I think Coach K would like to see if they can defend Carolina without having to zone them, but I would not be shocked to see it. That keeps Okafor out of foul trouble, and it also forces Carolina out of their offensive rhythm.


Who are the game’s biggest X factor players?

Greenberg: The X factor in a lot of ways for Duke is Justise Winslow because of his versatility. In three of the past four games he’s had a double-double. He’s a guy who can attack and make plays. He can get Duke some easy baskets, and that’s important at times because they can get stuck.

There are two X factors for Carolina: Johnson, who impacted the game last season with his length, and Hicks, who takes pressure off others because he can score. Overall, I think this is a challenge to Carolina’s toughness. I question its toughness at times. The Tar Heels are talented, but if you were to ask me who the toughest guy on their team is, I’d have a hard time answering that. If you don’t have that guy -- the guy who raises everyone’s temperature -- that’s a concern for a coach.

It sounds silly, but when Mike [Krzyzewski] wants to shake it up, he can put Marshall Plumlee in the game. He’s going to knock people around, be physical, tough and fly to the glass. He’s going to do those things. Who is that guy for Carolina? There isn’t a guy on that team who jumps out to me that raises their temperature.

Fraschilla: For North Carolina, it’s got to be Paige. He hasn’t had as much of the big-game magic as he had last year during the end of a brilliant sophomore season. He had a great shot late against NC State earlier in the season, but he has got to get back to being the Marcus Paige of his sophomore year. He made only 8 of 27 3-pointers in the past four games, and for UNC to go to Cameron Indoor Stadium and have a chance to win, he’s not only the Tar Heels’ X factor, but just a huge factor overall in the game. It would be hard for me to conceive of North Carolina winning in Durham without a big game from Paige.

I think if you’re Coach K, you want to establish Okafor because he’s having an outstanding freshman season. But much like Paige was a year ago for Carolina, Tyus Jones has become Duke’s big-shot guy. He’s been brilliant versus ranked teams, averaging 15 points and five assists versus Duke’s six ranked opponents and shooting near 50 percent from 3. He has certainly proved to be a big-time player.

With that said, we need to throw some kudos to Quinn Cook. He’s had a big season both as a great team leader off the court and by his play on the court. He’s quietly had one of the better seasons in the ACC. I know Coach K has remarked over how his leadership has grown during his time at Duke. It’s particularly important because this is the last time he’s going to play North Carolina at Cameron. He could be a big factor.


What’s the most intriguing matchup?

Fraschilla: The obvious one would be Jones and Paige. In their own way, they each set the table for their teammates. Neither one is a great defender, but both are consummate quarterbacks. It’ll be a fun one to watch.

However, when you talk about playing Duke, it’s got to be whomever Roy Williams elects to start on Okafor. North Carolina’s interior defense has been soft recently, and it can’t afford to be soft when it meets up with Okafor. Whether it’s Johnson or Meeks particularly, maybe even Joel James because of his size, any matchup that involves Okafor for North Carolina is a key matchup.

Greenberg: I agree with Fran that Paige will be a difference-maker, one way or the other. But I believe the most interesting matchup will have him squaring off against Cook. The senior is having a better season than Paige, as he’s been consistent, has shot the ball better and has done a good job adapting.

Another interesting matchup will be Justin Jackson and Winslow. Jackson is talented, and both are really athletic and kinetic players. Also keep an eye on Johnson’s production. He’s a guy who just always leaves you wanting more. This past weekend, he had 19 points but only three rebounds. You know what you’re going to get from Meeks. Not Johnson. He needs to be more consistent.


Which team has the higher ceiling going forward?

Greenberg: Carolina is devoid of enough shot-makers. It doesn’t have the consistency up front from any one player. Duke’s ceiling is higher because it has the best player. Okafor is just flat-out a difference-maker. The Blue Devils have enough players they can mix and match depending on the lineups. Similar to UNC, Duke’s one problem is that it doesn’t have great depth up front. After Amile Jefferson, the team’s next 4 is Winslow, who is a little bit undersized. That’s unless they play Okafor and Plumlee together, which I think is a bit of a defensive issue.

Fraschilla: There have been stretches of the season, particularly during ACC play, where UNC has looked outstanding. Now it is coming off of a tough four-game stretch with its only win coming against Boston College. Originally the Tar Heels had a high ceiling. But one of their major Achilles' heels has been outside shooting. That’s a big obstacle for them to overcome if they want to go deep in March.

For Duke, I think it’s just depth. The Blue Devils have proved that they can play with eight scholarship players consistently over time (they are 5-0 without Rasheed Sulaimon since he was dismissed). Anytime you go into the end of the season with only eight scholarship players, you have to be a little bit concerned with fatigue, injuries and, in the game, foul trouble. But I think Duke has the higher ceiling because it has the tighter eight-man rotation right now.