England conceded the Ashes in Australia in record-equalling time, just 11 days of cricket from the start of the series to a 3-0 scoreline. Following on from defeat in Adelaide, they have just a four-day turnaround before the fourth Test at the MCG. On the pod, Alan Gardner was joined by Andrew Miller and Alex Malcolm to pick through the fallout, with England men's managing director, Rob Key, having already faced the press in Melbourne. Can England salvage something from the tour? Is Brendon McCullum the man to rebuild? And how much of a freak is Pat Cummins. Happy listening.